diff --git a/ietf/mailinglists/forms.py b/ietf/mailinglists/forms.py
index 9ff93a1bf..0919e9dd4 100644
--- a/ietf/mailinglists/forms.py
+++ b/ietf/mailinglists/forms.py
@@ -169,8 +169,7 @@ class ListReqAuthorized(forms.Form):
 class ListReqClose(forms.Form):
     requestor = forms.CharField(label = "Requestor's full name", widget = forms.TextInput(attrs = {'size': 55}))
     requestor_email = forms.EmailField(label = "Requestor's email address", widget = forms.TextInput(attrs = {'size': 55}))
-    # todo: right widgets for these
-    mlist_name = forms.CharField(widget = forms.HiddenInput())
+    mlist_name = forms.CharField(label = 'Mailing List Name')	# will turn into just display field by template.
     domain_name = forms.CharField(widget = forms.HiddenInput())
     reason_to_delete = forms.CharField(label = 'Reason for closing list', widget = forms.Textarea(attrs = {'rows': 4, 'cols': 60}))
 
diff --git a/ietf/mailinglists/models.py b/ietf/mailinglists/models.py
index 2ef3756d0..6f770c715 100644
--- a/ietf/mailinglists/models.py
+++ b/ietf/mailinglists/models.py
@@ -80,7 +80,7 @@ class MailingList(models.Model):
     long_desc = models.TextField('Long description of the email list')
     # admins is a VARCHAR but can have multiple lines.
     admins = models.TextField('Mailing list administrators (one address per line)', maxlength=250)
-    initial = models.TextField('Enter email address(es) of initial subscriber(s) (one address per line) (optional)', blank=True)
+    initial_members = models.TextField('Enter email address(es) of initial subscriber(s) (one address per line) (optional)', blank=True, db_column='initial')
     welcome_message = models.TextField('Provide a welcome message for initial subscriber(s)(optional)', blank=True)
     welcome_new = models.TextField('Provide a welcome message for new subscriber(s)(optional)', blank=True)
     subscription = models.IntegerField('What steps are required for subscription?', choices=SUBSCRIPTION_CHOICES)
diff --git a/ietf/mailinglists/views.py b/ietf/mailinglists/views.py
index c9eeb6362..f74e34be5 100644
--- a/ietf/mailinglists/views.py
+++ b/ietf/mailinglists/views.py
@@ -147,7 +147,7 @@ list_fields = {
     'mail_type': None,
     'mail_cat': None,
     'admins': MultiEmailField(label='List Administrator(s)', widget=AdminRequestor(attrs={'cols': 41, 'rows': 4})),
-    'initial': MultiEmailField(label='Initial list member(s)', widget=forms.Textarea(attrs={'cols': 41, 'rows': 4}), required=False),
+    'initial_members': MultiEmailField(label='Initial list member(s)', widget=forms.Textarea(attrs={'cols': 41, 'rows': 4}), required=False),
 }
 
 list_labels = {
@@ -170,7 +170,7 @@ list_attrs = {
     'short_desc': { 'size': 55 },
     'long_desc': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4, 'wrap': 'virtual' },
     'admins': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
-    'initial': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
+    'initial_members': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
     'welcome_message': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
     'welcome_new': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
     'archive_remote': { 'cols': 41, 'rows': 4 },
@@ -190,6 +190,7 @@ class ListReqWizard(wizard.Wizard):
     clean_forms = []
     main_step = 1
     requestor_is_approver = False
+    mlist_known = True
     def get_template(self):
 	templates = []
 	#if self.step > 0:
@@ -204,6 +205,7 @@ class ListReqWizard(wizard.Wizard):
 	return templates
     def render_template(self, *args, **kwargs):
 	#self.extra_context['clean_forms'] = self.clean_forms
+	self.extra_context['mlist_known'] = self.mlist_known
 	if self.step > self.main_step:
 	    self.extra_context['main_form'] = self.clean_forms[self.main_step]
 	    self.extra_context['requestor_is_approver'] = self.requestor_is_approver
@@ -234,6 +236,7 @@ class ListReqWizard(wizard.Wizard):
 		    self.initial[self.main_step] = {'mlist_name': form.clean_data['group']}
 		else:
 		    self.initial[self.main_step] = {}
+		    self.mlist_known = False
 	    if form.clean_data['mail_type'].endswith('wg'):
 		self.initial[self.main_step].update({'domain_name': 'ietf.org'})
 	    else:
diff --git a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.html b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.html
index 0d6cc69cb..64c81679f 100644
--- a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.html
+++ b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.html
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@
 <tr><td> Short description of the email list: </td><td>{{ list.short_desc|escape }}</td></tr>
 <tr><td> Long description of the email list: </td><td>{{ list.long_desc|escape }}</td></tr>
 <tr><td> Administrator(s): </td><td><pre>{{ list.admins|escape }}</pre></td></tr>
-<tr><td> Email address(es) of initial subscriber(s) (optional): </td><td><pre>{{ list.initial|escape }}</pre></td></tr>
+<tr><td> Email address(es) of initial subscriber(s) (optional): </td><td><pre>{{ list.initial_members|escape }}</pre></td></tr>
 <tr><td> Welcome message for initial subscriber(s) (optional): </td><td>{{ list.welcome_message|linebreaksbr }}</td></tr>
 <tr><td> Welcome message for new subscriber(s) (optional): </td><td>{{ list.welcome_new|linebreaksbr }}</td></tr>
 <tr><td> Required steps for subscription: </td><td>{{ list.get_subscription_display }}</td></tr>
diff --git a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.txt b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.txt
index fd73a3a37..9f7d10f91 100644
--- a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.txt
+++ b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_summary.txt
@@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ Administrator(s):
 {{ list.admins }}
 
 Email address(es) of the initial subscriber(s) (optional):
-{{ list.initial }}
+{{ list.initial_members }}
 
 Welcome message for initial subscriber(s) (optional):
 {{ list.welcome_message }}
diff --git a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_ListReqClose.html b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_ListReqClose.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..765ec42f3
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_ListReqClose.html
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+{% include "mailinglists/list_wizard_MailingListForm.html" %}
diff --git a/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_MailingListForm.html b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_MailingListForm.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..4ea1e9545
--- /dev/null
+++ b/ietf/templates/mailinglists/list_wizard_MailingListForm.html
@@ -0,0 +1,29 @@
+{% extends "mailinglists/list_wizard_base.html" %}
+
+{% block mlform %}
+{% for field in form %}
+{% if field.is_hidden %}
+{# we assume that the only hidden form is the domain name #}
+{# so don't render anything #}
+{% else %}
+<tr>
+<th>{{ field.label_tag }}:</th>
+<td>
+{% if field.errors %}
+<ul class="errorlist">{% for error in field.errors %}<li>{{ error|escape }}</li>{% endfor %}</ul>
+{% endif %}
+{% ifequal field.name "mlist_name" %}
+{% if mlist_known %}{# if we know the mailing list name already #}
+{{ form.initial.mlist_name }}@{{ form.initial.domain_name }}{{ field.as_hidden }}
+{% else %}
+{{ field }}@{{ form.initial.domain_name }}
+{% endif %}
+{{ form.domain_name.as_hidden }}
+{% else %}
+{{ field }}
+{% endifequal %}
+</td>
+</tr>
+{% endif %}
+{% endfor %}
+{% endblock %}