diff --git a/ietf/group/views.py b/ietf/group/views.py
index e85169e07..4b4ec20d0 100644
--- a/ietf/group/views.py
+++ b/ietf/group/views.py
@@ -79,7 +79,7 @@ def fill_in_charter_info(group, include_drafts=False):
     group.areadirector = getattr(group.ad_role(),'email',None)
 
     personnel = {}
-    for r in Role.objects.filter(group=group).select_related("email", "person", "name"):
+    for r in Role.objects.filter(group=group).order_by('person__name').select_related("email", "person", "name"):
         if r.name_id not in personnel:
             personnel[r.name_id] = []
         personnel[r.name_id].append(r)
diff --git a/ietf/group/views_edit.py b/ietf/group/views_edit.py
index 82760115b..b49dacf4e 100644
--- a/ietf/group/views_edit.py
+++ b/ietf/group/views_edit.py
@@ -380,7 +380,7 @@ def edit(request, group_type=None, acronym=None, action="edit"):
                         )
 
             for slug in roles_for_group_type(group_type):
-                init[slug + "_roles"] = Email.objects.filter(role__group=group, role__name=slug)
+                init[slug + "_roles"] = Email.objects.filter(role__group=group, role__name=slug).order_by('role__person__name')
         else:
             init = dict(ad=request.user.person.id if group_type == "wg" and has_role(request.user, "Area Director") else None,
                         )